Restaurants Cooking Fries in Soybean Oil – Top 8 Allergen

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I went to the local Red Robin with my husband in March 2022 hoping for one of their delicious hamburgers. It had been months since the last time we visited so I was anxious to get our order placed and the food in my belly!

When the server came to my table I asked if the buns had soy in them. She looked up the info on the table-tablet and discovered that none of their buns had soy in them. That seemed highly unlikely but didn’t get into an argument. I suppose it could be true but often most restaurants have bread that uses soy flour and I am left to get a lettuce wrap instead.

So, good news, right! I went with the sesame seed bun that comes with the hamburger I ordered and proceeded to wait for our food. I also ordered their chocolate shake that I’ve always loved.

A little while later, the server and the manager came up to my table and inform me that the French fries were cooked in soybean oil. I was shocked!

Unfortunately, the onion rings and the Mozzarella sticks were also cooked in soybean oil. The only option they had for me was a house salad or broccoli. I did not want either one and even if I wanted salad, more than likely, the salad dressing would also have soy in it. Most dressings are made with soybean oil.

That was at the beginning of a rather disappointing dinner.

The guacamole on the hamburger didn’t taste right to me and when the chocolate shake arrived, it didn’t taste very chocolatey.

Now at this point I had already eaten some of the mozzarella sticks before they told me it was cooked in soybean oil. Luckily I do not have horrible medical effects from eating soy but the restaurant doesn’t know that!

How does it affect me? Well, I get intense sharp pains throughout my stomach and intense sharp pains up and down my spine. There have been times I’ve left a restaurant and had difficulty breathing but I don’t know if that was from soy or something else.

On this occasion I arrived at the restaurant with a headache so I can’t say for sure if the soy gave me a headache or not but I had a far worse one when I left.

I decided to do some research once I got home and I pulled up the website for Red Robin looking for the same information that the server found while I was there. Sure enough I found it and it was exactly the same.

On the website I clicked the dot next to the word soy and proceeded to look at all of the things I could eat while also avoiding soy. The website confirmed salad and broccoli.

On their website was a question/answer section with the following:

Question: Why are steak fries not recommended for guests avoiding some allergies.

Answer: While our steak fries do not include wheat, eggs, soy, fish, shellfish nor milk, and Red Robin does not have a dedicated fryer for cooking our steak fries, it is not recommended to consume the steak fries if you are trying to avoid these allergens due to possible cross contact in our fryer station.

That sounds great but think about that for a second. The restaurant is stating that their fries do not have soy in them but they then cook them in soybean oil. They might as well put soy in the fries, for crying out loud!

Then I looked at another website called Allergy Eats where they host an article about Red Robin and allergens. Their site says the following…

As online discussions have heated up, many food-allergic individuals shared information that didn’t fit with what we’ve learned about Red Robin over the years, so we went straight to the top of Red Robin’s management team to get the most up-to-date information for you. Within minutes, senior management from the food safety and allergy information teams made themselves available to answer our questions.

Below is one of the questions they asked Red Robin.

Does any Red Robin restaurant now, or in the planned future, use peanut oil in any fryers.

Good question! Here is the answer…

No. Red Robin uses a fully refined soybean oil, an item which is not considered a big 8 allergen by the FDA.

Now I find that very, very interesting. Really? They actually think that soybean oil is not a big 8 allergen?

So guess what I did. That’s right, I went to the FDA website and guess what they show there. The major food allergens (the Big 8) which are milk, eggs, fish, shellfish, tree nuts, peanuts, wheat, and soybeans.

So either the person who wrote the article or the person interviewed literally thinks soybean oil is not the same thing as soybean or they are woefully misinformed or they’re lying. How can they say or think that soybean, or soybean oil, is not considered a big 8 by the FDA.

Now this leads me to wonder just how many restaurants are using soybean oil to cook their fried foods. Is this why I leave restaurants with headaches or can’t breathe well or have stomach pains?

I know soy is cheap and probably cheaper than canola oil or vegetable oil but it is a top allergen and should be avoided. The fact soy is in some food items is something the consumer needs to be aware of and avoid but frying or cooking food in soybean oil leaves the consumer with no other option. Offering broccoli instead of French fries is ridiculous.

I realize there are many regulations for restaurants that they have to follow and they can’t necessarily list every allergy known to man but soy is a major allergen and they should inform the consumer that they are using soybean oil to COOK the food that they are making not just that there is soy in a product.

I don’t order salads at a restaurant because I know there will be soybean oil in the salad dressing. I avoid it, it’s my responsibility. But if you’re going to cook your food in soybean oil then I can’t eat at your restaurant and there are probably thousands of others who can’t as well.

The fact that the server came to me and said that there was an issue with the French fries is commendable and now I’m wondering how many other restaurants I’ve gone to wherein I was served food cooked in soy. Sadly this means I’m going to have to ask even more detailed questions at every restaurant I go to in order to protect myself.

There was another question on the Allergy Eats website that sparked a bit more shock. In that question (below), Red Robin claimed they changed their recipe for chicken to remove the major allergen otherwise known as soy. Looking at the comments below the article, I found someone just as frustrated as I am.

Check out this question under the article!

I am going to add a little humor here about my past interactions with servers and the issue of soy. When I discovered I was allergic to soy I was quite depressed because I love sushi and I love mixing wasabi with soy sauce. Well guess what I couldn’t do anymore.

So when I order sushi I can’t get anything that has a sauce on it because they are usually made with mayonnaise which has soybean oil as one of the first ingredients. And I can’t get eel sauce because it has soy sauce in it. And there are other things I need to avoid. So inevitably I tell the server I can’t eat soy and ask if there’s soy sauce or soy in the item I’m ordering.

So they’ll ask me one of the two following questions that always cracks me up.

Would you like some low sodium soy sauce?

Or

Would you like some gluten free soy sauce?

I very politely tell them no but what I want to say is “do you have any soy free soy sauce”? It just cracks me up when they ask me those questions and all I can do is laugh about it.

What’s even funnier is when they bring edamame as an appetizer. I’m like, those are soybeans.  

There is one lady at a local restaurant I go to quite often who automatically brings me low sodium soy sauce because she knows there’s something about me that’s different.

I just tell her thank you because at least she’s trying to remember my situation. Those are the kinds of people I appreciate even if they don’t get it quite right.

As I wrap up this thought, I wonder how long places have been using soybean oil rather than canola or vegetable oil. I thought perhaps it was a new thing due to the economy but obviously Red Robin has been using it since at least as far back as the article on Allergy Eats which was written in 2017.  

It is extremely frustrating that Red Robin would put out a statement saying that soybean is not a major allergen when it most definitely is.  If restaurants use something I can’t eat and I’m unable to avoid it because they cook their food in it, then there’s nothing more I can do.

Pictures from Pixabay; Article screen shots from their website

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Weekend Chickens – April 1

It snowed for a few hours blocking the sun and the fun.
But we got some some time in the yard, a mysterious visitor, & 2 annoying visitors.
Some surprise snow for the chickens!

Today we ate beef and glared at the geese! I also spent some time comparing the birds in regards to the combs and wattles… size and brightness. I’m trying to guess who will lay eggs first! Comparing Combs and Wattles and Hating Geese.

In the final video posted this weekend, the chickens were fine with 22 degree weather but I forgot this, that, and the other thing.

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Hollywood Elites vs Everyone Else

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We have all known for a long time that something is going on within the entertainment industry. What I mean by “something” is that within that circle is a particular kind of person and there are hierarchies and elites just like there are in the government.

I did not watch the Oscars this year and have no idea when the last time was that I did watch them. I have no interest whatsoever and watching Hollywood pat itself on the back and tell themselves how great they are is disgusting, at best. The films they publish are often crap or just another forum to lecture us. So, them giving each other awards for that kind of garbage means nothing to me at all.

The Will Smith and Chris Rock incident is a great example of what is happening in the world today. There are a few pictures on-line of the incident that almost look like this was a planned event.

But then there are more pictures and the video to indicate it wasn’t. I’m going to discuss a theory I have about this whole event and whether or not it was planned.

There are rumors that Hollywood is trying to get rid of comedians. Many of them have walked away from comedy and become very bitter and angry. You can tell who these people are based on what they are doing and saying today.

When it comes to popular and well-known comedians, many of them have pulled way back from their usual comedy skits. Up and coming comedians who are not well known can get away with more questionable material because nobody knows about them. Often, they are seen at small comedy clubs or bars and have no aspiration of becoming the next Chris Rock.

Famous comedians are forever being watched and there are people with nothing better to do than bite their nails waiting for the next controversial joke or mistake. Of course when I say the word controversial or mistake, I mean in the eyes of those who are offended by everything and on behalf of everyone.   

Jokes rarely do NOT offend someone. When was the last time you watched a standup comedian tell joke after joke after joke and never offend a soul? It is impossible. Even with some of the tamest jokes there will be someone who is offended. There are comedians who use themselves as examples or as the butt of the joke but there will always be somebody in the audience who gets bent out of shape because they identify in some way.

Just like difficult conversations that seem to be forbidden these days, it seems that there is a list of jokes being created that can no longer be told and the list is getting longer. Whether or not Chris Rock knew that will Smith’s wife has a medical condition is quite honestly irrelevant. If you are in the public arena, then you are not off limits.

Will Smith’s reaction implies that no one can say anything about his wife and that’s ridiculous. She can roll her eyes if she wants and she can be mad if she wants but for him to get up out of his seat, walk all the way on stage and slap another man across the face, is very irresponsible and sets a horrible example.

What is he telling people? Is he telling us that the next time we’re offended by a comedian we can get up and slap them across the face? Is he telling children that the next time somebody says something that hurts feelings you can punch or push them? Where is the limit?  

Chris Rock made a joke about Jada’s hair which is a subject she has talked about herself so it’s not as if it’s hush hush.

No one likes to be made fun of, that is true, but if you are in this field of work and at an awards event with a comedian on stage, you know what’s going to happen.

You know comedians will cherry pick people out of the audience to make fun of and this is actually a way of showing the viewers that the actors know how people see them. They are attempting to make themselves seem real.

Of course, that is actually not entirely true because Hollywood believes that we, the common person who watches them on the big screen, are sitting in awe of how great they are. I believe there was a day that would have been true but Hollywood has lost credibility and this event sums it up quite nicely.

The Hollywood elite believe we should emulate them and therefore they are giving themselves all kinds of privileges while also restricting themselves into narrow boxes.

So imagine you have millions of dollars and millions of fans but your coworkers are dictating what you can and cannot do and if you do the wrong thing, they will blacklist you or shame you to the world. You only have a handful of choices at this point. You can stand up for your beliefs and get kicked in the teeth or you can join the radicals and be one of the forces against the minority person in Hollywood.

We wonder why teenagers act the way they do today. I know teenagers have always acted out or acted peculiarly compared to how adults act later in life (I was one of them). However, teenagers today are doing much more damage to themselves physically and mentally and much of that comes from Hollywood.

Many teenagers have no idea how to make real and lasting friends because everything comes and goes so quickly and one of your friends could turn on you as soon as you say the wrong thing.  

Of course hundreds of memes were created within minutes of the Smith & Rock incident and I have created one of my own. I’m not a big meme creator so we’ll see how this goes.

Meme 01 – PJ
Meme 02 – PJ

Basically, how I see this picture is that Chris Rock represents the Hollywood elites and Will Smith represents everyone else in the world who is fed up with Hollywood. When you know the actual incident in question, it’s backwards but I think you get it.

What happened at the Oscars is exactly what we want to do to Hollywood. We want to slap them across the face and tell them to stop the stupid crap that they are doing!

It doesn’t matter to me who did this. The fact that it was these two people is irrelevant. If two other actors did this exact same thing, I would feel the same way because Hollywood elites have back stabbed fans to the point of people boycotting their movies, their TV shows, or places they may be where we simply don’t want to see them anymore.

Hell, the person running the camera could have slapped one of the backstage people and that act would represent the same thing period Hollywood is a mess!

The Oscars are supposed to be a place for fans to get a look at their favorite actors outside of their movies or TV shows. To see them interacting with each other and maybe get a good laugh or a good cry. To remember the movies that we loved and to see if any of our favorite actors win awards for those movies.

Today the Oscars is just a place for the actors to bleed on stage about whatever thing has their attention today.

There are other forums where they can promote what they care about or express their feelings about events or people in the world. The Oscars is not the place for that however that is what it has become and it’s gross. They figure they’re already on stage and people are already watching so why not ram things down our throat regardless of whether we want to hear it or not

As a side note, regarding Hollywood and activism, I don’t believe it belongs anywhere, at least not what they are promoting today. It’s one thing for an actor to go out of their way to feed the poor or help a victim of abuse or promote adoption of pets or something similar. But that’s not what they’re doing anymore, now they are actively telling us what we need to do and encouraging others to shame us if we don’t.

Regarding the actual event of Will Smith slapping Chris Rock for telling a joke about his wife’s hair, I believe Will Smith was out of line. The joke was innocuous and unless you actually knew the reference, you wouldn’t necessarily get the joke.  

Hell, I never saw the movie he referenced so honestly would not have even gotten the joke unless I went out of my way to look it up.

And the fact Will Smith sat there and laughed the whole time until his wife gave him the look, tells me he didn’t think it was a big deal.

I get the sense that there is something broken in that relationship and that he may be under pressure from his wife that is beyond what they make known. There’s something there.

Now since I put together my transcript for creating this video yesterday, Will Smith has come out with an apology that includes an apology to Chris Rock and his wife posted a quick Item on Instagram that simply says:

This is a season for healing and I’m here for it.

The only thing I have to say about that is that if she really forgives Chris Rock for the joke and doesn’t take offense, she should say so with her voice.

Okay, here’s a possible theory that, after Will’s apology to Chris Rock since the event, is probably flawed but still something to consider.

So let’s assume it was planned and that this is something Will and Chris set up together in order to get some attention. If that is true, I still think that Chris was surprised at the force of the slap. Again this is just for the sake of argument saying that maybe they planned it all along.

There just seems to be some indication it could have been planned. There’s a look on Chris’s face that might indicate he knew Will was coming up to do something and maybe they planned for him to take the microphone or do a little slap then wrestle or play it up.

Meme 03 – PJ

When Will Smith walks away after the slap, he has a smirk on his face as if he just pulled something off. Like maybe he was supposed to do something else but SURPRISE.

And then there’s the look of shock on Chris face which could mean anything. I believe he would be shocked regardless because if he didn’t know he was going to be slapped, that would surprise him. If he did know he was going to be slapped and joked around with, then that big slap would also surprise him. Either way I think Chris was surprised and Will walked away feeling vindicated.

I don’t know enough about the history between these two men and quite frankly I really don’t care. I read a small thing that said they might have an ongoing dispute. I do know there are some questions about the relationship between Will and his wife but that’s something else all together.

My wrap is that Hollywood is insulting the fans to the point of shooting themselves in the foot. Actors are coming apart at the seams, former comedians are screaming at people, those still trying to do stand-up comedy have a ball and chain around their ankle, movies are lecturing us about everything making it impossible to live up to the expectations the elites seem to have for us, and movies are no longer entertaining. New movies are stupid and remakes of great movies are attempts to kill off characters or change them beyond recognition.

Hollywood, if you’re listening, we the fans don’t care about what you think we should think. You live in a fantasy world and you are creating and helping to create mental illness and confusion beyond a recognizable life.

You live in a bizarre bubble that you have locked yourself into and welded shut any escape. I used to feel bad for actors who were no longer acting but now I recognize that they are the lucky ones. They magically found the exit and walked through finding something much more real and fulfilling… it’s called life!

This is Phenix JiRa and I’m done with that thought.

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Wistful Thought While Passing a Rosebush

Uplifting poem by Mary Lou Healy

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Weekend Chickens – March 26th

Parkour Chick lays her first egg! Just one more chicken to join the egg laying flock! Check out this short video where we get to see PK do her thing.

Finally figured out how much layer feed they eat! There are 14 cups in their feeder and that should last about 6 days. But that’s not the only thing in this video. Check out the adventure.

Now in this last video for the weekend, we witness a very weird morning with the ladies. They don’t appear to like doves and we have a few of those around the place. Eventually we got outside and I taught them some manners… they can be quite rude.

Trinity defends herself, although, looking back now, she might have been the aggressor.

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Politics in Corporations

My personal experience with corporate politics leaves me wondering just what happens behind the scenes within a business when it’s obvious politics are oozing into the environment.

In this newest video from That Thought, I go over the reasons corporate politics can kill production as well as diminish the importance of individuals while overstating the demands of others. If one person’s demands destroys the environment to the point others are quitting, you really have a problem on your hands!

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Hay Day Derby Game Play

Want to watch some derby play on Hay Day? This is the video for you!!

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Private Moment with Parkour Chick

Dealing with Miss Cloud’s need to be head honcho is causing a bit of stress for me. I’ll figure it out but it’s making me worried for Trinity and Parkour Chick. One way to deal with it is to open the kennel right away in the morning. I go over what a Sagitta and a Black Sex Link chicken is compared to each other and to the Barred Plymouth Rock.

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Chicken Lays Her First Egg – Watch it Roll

It took a while to figure out which hen was the third hen to lay eggs in the flock. On this morning I woke to 3 eggs instead of 2 with no idea who laid it! It took two days to figure this out but I finally did it! I think they enjoyed playing with my mind! You’ll never guess which chicken is laying now.

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Companies Without Standards

In this video I go over the struggles of dealing with a supervisor and coworkers who fight against standards and the inevitable trouble it causes. Why am I in trouble? SOPs are an important part of every company!

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Slices Puzzle Game Play

Hi Puzzle lovers. I’m back once again playing Slices! What is Slices, you ask? It is all about making circle puzzles and adding them to your collection. I will be moving on to the Passport section of the game because I now have collected all 250 collection pieces!

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Filling Beauty’s Pages by Mlou

Another beautiful poem by Mary Lou Healy. Have a listen!

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Michael takes us through making a smokeless camp stove and along the way, we have a few issues to overcome. In the end, he brings in a little help from Igor.

Check out the video below to watch how we eventually overcome the issues and end up smokeless. This is a fun time!

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Cluster Duck Phone Game

This video is longer than my usual but it’s worth it if you love Cluster Duck and seeing ducks hatch and fall down the pit-O-death.


I’ll first describe my process and then show a few captured ducks along the way.


Now, I warn you… if this video is liked, I have many more to share… so many, many more…

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